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Incinerator by Sparky2
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Date: 07/01/2015 Time: 13:59:45

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Now that the Government has given the go-ahead for the incinerator at Hardwicke, the Conservatives have lost any hope of my vote in May.

They have shown that the wishes of local habitants have been ignored in favour of big business.

David Drew was an excellent constituency MP and has backed the opposition to the project. Unfortunately, he has a problem, Ed Milliband. Like many others, there is no way I would support Red Ed.

Ah well, UKIP here I come!

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Incinerator by Mud
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Date: 07/01/2015 Time: 14:32:56

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would UKIP have stopped the incinerator going ahead?

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Incinerator by Anonymous Coward
Date: 07/01/2015 Time: 15:59:07
@ Sparky2.

You haven't thought this through, have you? Do you really think that UKIP aren't a party* of Big Business?

You've never voted for David Drew in your life, have you? Or did you you really think that Blair was a better leader than Ed Miliband could be?

* Not really a party, more of a bunch of pub bores.

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Incinerator by rgshl
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Date: 09/01/2015 Time: 12:55:42

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It's going to be the Greens for me this time-wasted vote or not-can't really see that much difference between the Tories and (nu)Labour when it comes to deference to the monied and business classes. First time I've ever joined a political party-must be desperate

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Incinerator by Anonymous Coward
Date: 09/01/2015 Time: 18:20:53
But David Drew isn't Nu (whatever) Labour, he's Labour and Co-operative party. So ner, ner, ner, ner, ner.

Personally, I'd love to vote Green, but until they drop their evidence-free policies against several things, including, but not limited to, Nuclear power and Genetic modification, they can f*** off to the far side of F*** ... and when they get there they can f*** off a bit more.

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Incinerator by Anonymous Coward
Date: 09/01/2015 Time: 18:32:31
One of my reservations about the Green Party is that there is a streak of anti-science in it.

I think some of them have this idyllic visions of the past through Cider with Rosey spectacles...etc etc

I think we could have a much better world than that using science. A home for everyone. Enough food and clean water for everyone. And less of things like the black death, and Ebola.

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Incinerator by Anonymous Coward
Date: 09/01/2015 Time: 18:45:12
There isn't a streak of anti-science running through the Green Party, there's a torrent of it. Until they deal with that I will not be voting for a party that supports anti-vax policies and homeopathy on the NHS.

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Incinerator by rgshl
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Date: 10/01/2015 Time: 15:04:11

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I think you are referring to the "Dark Greens" when you mention the anti science bit and yes there are a few. You may not have noticed but both the Tories and NuLabour have more than their fair share of swivel-eyed loons-every party has in the case of UKIP perhaps the tail even wags the dog. Green Party membership has soared over the past year, nearly doubling and I suspect this will result in a greater proportion of pragmatists who don't necessarily want to live in a yurt and eat only unpolished brown rice. Some of us pale greens recognise nuclear power as perhaps the least bad stop-gap. On GM crops I'm less sure but I'd rather have them than folk go hungry-one proviso though-a bit of regulation for the producer companies vis a vis terminator genes-profit, yes but not exploitation

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Incinerator by Anonymous Coward
Date: 10/01/2015 Time: 17:24:17
I most certainly hope that is the case. I know a very large number of people who work in many areas of scientific endeavour who are itching to vote Green ... yet they still won't because the deep Greens still have far too much sway in the party.

Seriously, there are thousands out there who will get involved the minute the leadership of the Green Party realise that the anti-science manifesto policies that have been published are a huge stumbling block.

If you are an active member of the party, please take this message back to your mates.

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Incinerator by rgshl
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Date: 18/01/2015 Time: 09:26:06

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Why the big anti-incinerator demo in Stroud on Saturday ? This is a done deal isn't it ? I thought Pickles had the final word in his infinite wisdom.

Also what were all those posters about Democracy nonsense ? We don't have "that kind" of democracy. If you aren't a) A Tory Donor b) a Potential Tory donor c)Simply filthy rich then I'm afraid that you are "not a member" of the current democracy and you'd be as well to remember your station

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Incinerator by ExPat Pete
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Date: 18/01/2015 Time: 12:06:43

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Having watched from afar I feel I would like to wade into the argument.

Firstly, yes, we need to recycle more. However, there are plenty of materials we all use – however green we believe we are – that are not recyclable. This can either be put in the ground or burnt. Burning has the advantage of the waist being broken down into much smaller amounts. There are a great many incinerators around the world which don’t seem to be causing any problems. I can appreciate that this may ruin people’s views and affect their house prices but there is still a lot of rubbish that needs to be dealt with. Does anyone have any better ideas of how to get rid of it.

Once its built it will be forgotten about and the next big drama will unfold.

Remember all the fuss over the TETRA masts for the (soon to be dumped) Airwave system? All those kids with everything from bleeding noses to cancers and god knows what else we were going to get? A lot of scary talk that came to nothing.

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Incinerator by Anonymous Coward
Date: 18/01/2015 Time: 12:25:07
So you don't live in the area then. You can't beat reasoned argument, especially when it won't effect you in the slightest!

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Incinerator by Anonymous Coward
Date: 18/01/2015 Time: 15:08:21

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I can appreciate that this may ruin people’s views

No more than Dairy Crest etc, or the M5, surely?

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Incinerator by Anonymous Coward
Date: 20/01/2015 Time: 13:31:46

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Incinerator by Anonymous Coward
Date: 20/01/2015 Time: 13:39:34
that's in relation to:


Quotation:
THE cost of cancelling the contract with Urbaser Balfour Beatty to build an incinerator at Javelin Park could amount to £100m.


Quotation:
“Labour has acted irresponsibly in calling to cancel this contract before knowing these costs. The Conservatives were reckless in signing such a rigid contract before the planning committee had even considered the application.”

http://www.stroudnewsandjournal.co.uk/news/11735581.Cancelling_the_incinerator_contract_could_cost_taxpayers___100m/

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