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McCarthy Old Folks Home Building Site - Photos by Dani
Date: 26/08/2007 Time: 15:00:46
" I feel your pain " as one of our good Pres. Bill Clinton would have said.

Senior Citizen homes over here start out with the idea of trip, swimming pools, clubhouses, dances, etc.

In the end they become "Warehouses for old people " and very expensive ones at that.

A true nursing care home would usually cost about 8000 pounds a month ...this is for constant care.

A Senior Retirement appartment , which would at upon our death revert back to the community owners, could start at 160,000 pounds and that would be a bare bones one.

By restricting people to a certain age, you almost guarantee an earlier death.

The ads would have one think, they are happy, content and live longer...

Ahhhhh. no they have to give up their pets, cannot bring them into the housing. There world does narrow down to one of discussing complaints and illnesses. The young community

craft person will try to get them to be more optimistic by having

them make a clay animal.

Well, you all know a whole collection of clay animals instead of a visit with your grandchildren will certainly keep you happy.

For my own unscientific, unbusiness like but totally emotional take on it. ?

A community built with walking, biking paths, park like areas where children can play and elders can sit down

.

A variety of one floor, two floor housing of all sizes. You LOCAL shops could have a small second store that would feed into their larger one in it's orginial location.

Have a "foster" grandparent program so that the elder living there could help the younger parents with the children...creates a double benefit..children get to know older people and older people get the happiness generated from the children.

In other words, the kind of town my grandmother grew up in out here in wild wooly Kansas.

They could not "isolate" any age group. All were needed to make the town move and grow.

But as you see I am somewhat of an idealist and optimist and can find 12 people to my one that will find fault with the above ideas.

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McCarthy Old Folks Home Building Site - Photos by Dani
Date: 26/08/2007 Time: 15:09:17
I have got to start speaking in terms of dollars ( although I much more like your pound in terms of buying power )

for I have done it again.

Over here custodial care in nursing home even for a patient that is not confined to bed will start at $4000.00 ..very few would qualify for gov. relief and it would be a small bit of the over all price.

Normal Retirement homes that are being build quickly for the coming of the boomers. would start....free standing home in community = $250,000. Condo type in building = $100,000 and up.

then a monthly maint. fee of $250.00 and up to cut grass, shovel snow, water lawn. etc.

I keep doubling the pounds instead of doubling the dollars.

Hey, here's a whine from an American...we do it so well....Canadian dollar worth more than our. Next step trading in rocks stamped with the likeness of Prezel Bush II or King George as we call him.

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McCarthy Old Folks Home Building Site - Photos by Betty Mills
Date: 26/08/2007 Time: 15:52:44
Reluctantly I feel that I ought to join this discussion. If you were a professor of music in 1970 your salary had just risen from 2 to £3000 per year, you retirement was worth 16,000. We inherited Newmarket House but no money. several cottages with minimal rent. Sidney had a wonderful collection of old maps. These paid the death duties. ( you can find them in th Scot Nat library.) Firstly,I divided NH in an effort to stay there. Eventually I sold it for under £100,00 and spent the money acquiring The Lot.which needed up grading. Eventually moved to Dunkirk.

Ultimately, whilst at Duniirk was not well,and was isolated. Walked to C.F. and booked last available home (phase one)(same price as Dunkirk apartment) Yes, when I move on it will be bought back and a small amount retained to restore it for a new owner. Thus my family will have no problems. Yes, there's a service charge (as at Dunkirk) which copes with ongoing expenses e.g. staff, window cleaning, roof protection, garden management, you name it. meals are not expensive. can be delivered for £1. or you cook your own. The best thing about C.F is the wonderful staff. Many of them, local.

Each week the bus goes on expeditions and pub visits for small charge. Items take place in the octagonal lounge. It's up to you how much you spend. What your life style is like. I walk to Dunkirk bus stop. then Nailworth/Glos/ Cheltenham wherever.

When I took ill around 9pm. Staff was with me within minutes and I was very soon, off to Glos Hosp.

I hear this place described as for the idle rich

I, ve never been peticularly idle and I am not rich by any standards.

The new flats will have a manager who organises problems. People locally who will have to stop driving welcome the idea.

Better to have the elderly than (noisy?) youngsters on that site, so conveniently near to traffic and local activities. Apologies for length.

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McCarthy Old Folks Home Building Site - Photos by Sinnikal
Date: 26/08/2007 Time: 16:43:30
Betty, I'm sure the people who move into the new flats will be made very welcome in Nailsworth, I've found it to be a very friendly town. I've made some great friends in town, some, like myself, incomers, many more are families who have lived locally for years and years.

I think the only worry people have is that with the building of so many retirement homes in the area the great balance of ages that we have in town may eventually be affected

Any one of us could eventually find ourselves in circumstances where a retirement flat in town would be ideal, we're none of us getting younger

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McCarthy Old Folks Home Building Site - Photos by Dani
Date: 26/08/2007 Time: 18:00:21
Betty, that all sounds like you had to deal with quite a bit of hardship there, so very sorry.

I can only speak for the mainly for-profit companies over here that are getting into this business.

If a loved one dies, there flat reverts to the for-profit company and the survivors do not receive anything.

Thus going in, one must realize that it is money never to be seen again.

I know Barking, speaking badly about Americans again...I am speaking of American companies or whatever country actually ownes them...companies that are quickly destroying the middle class of American. They have already dispatched the poorer people.

Hope you are finding things well for you Betty. You are just a few steps further down that road than me.

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McCarthy Old Folks Home Building Site - Photos by Betty Mills
Date: 26/08/2007 Time: 23:01:42
I must make it clear that my "house" here. 2 bed, living room. kitchen and facilities will be -bought- back by the company, retaining a small amount for doing it up. Our Nailsworth population must by now be well over 7000. the elderly peoples, facilities, although good, do not represent a large percentage of the total number of houses. SDC is devising a system to help young people to afford homes. It is frightening how expensive things have become. A few years ago my original home was sold for £700,00.

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McCarthy Old Folks Home Building Site - Photos by Carey Hunt
Date: 27/08/2007 Time: 01:04:44
I have nothing whatsoever against 'retirement homes' in general (indeed, have been trying for years to persuade my parents to move into one so I can have their house!) but I am still concerned that, Nailsworth being in an 'expensive' part of the country, that first-time buyers, (as in children of local residents) will never be able to buy property in the town they grew up in. The result will be an inevitable ageing of the local population, and a decline in the services that the town has to offer.

I still believe in the idea which I posted on an earlier thread. There should be some sort of scheme in operation whereby young first-time buyers in rural areas who can prove a residential or parental connection to the town/village should be able to borrow an amount equivalent to the difference in price between a property in their home village/town and an equivalent property elsewhere, thus enabling them to stay in the place they grew up and where their family live. This loan amount could be reclaimed when the property is sold.

I don't have the money or influence to set up such a scheme myself, but if anyone on here's got any influential connections on the local council,why not suggest it to 'em?

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McCarthy Old Folks Home Building Site - Photos by Wozie
Date: 27/08/2007 Time: 09:05:01
Here's a view taken in 1990 from Fountain Street across to Old Market.

It shows the two bungalows that have been demolished ready for McCarthy and Stone to erect their block of 35 old peoples flats with room for 10 cars to park!

Calling all our Nailsworth.com photographers, any recent photos available to post here please?

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McCarthy Old Folks Home Building Site - Photos by Not Required
Date: 27/08/2007 Time: 09:11:39
Two questions regarding this thread: somebody said earlier "Look at Painswick". What does this mean? I'm interested because I've been there a few times and found it quite 'eerie'compared to Nailsworth. Also, what is the average price of a 3 bed semi down there? Could you get one for £150,000 for example? Thanks, K

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McCarthy Old Folks Home Building Site - Photos by Wozie
Date: 27/08/2007 Time: 09:19:45
What do you mean by saying that Painswick is 'eerier' than Nailsworth?

You would be lucky to get a semi in Nailsworth or Forest Green for £150, I think you would have to go above that price.

Now if you are asking about prices in Painswick they would be much more expensive because they are 'posh'!

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McCarthy Old Folks Home Building Site - Photos by Not Required
Date: 27/08/2007 Time: 09:36:35
It just seemed sort of 'dead'. Like it had no energy left. That may be a big misjudgement from two visits but it was my impression. K ps Looks like I'll have to downsize if I want to move down then. Had a feeling it would be out of my price bracket.

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McCarthy Old Folks Home Building Site - Photos by Not Required
Date: 15/09/2007 Time: 12:10:11
WHY BUILD A RETIREMENT HOME IN THE CENTER OF NAILSWORTH????? Nailsworth is a busy town there is enough space to fit something in that benefit's the whole community not just a few rich old people. Yeah its a good space for the retired but why not build it away form the center and use the space for everyone. Madness

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McCarthy Old Folks Home Building Site - Photos by Wozie
Date: 15/09/2007 Time: 13:46:20
You are at least a couple of years tooooo late with that sugestion NR.

We did try to suggest alternatives but I am afraid that money has more impact every time.

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McCarthy Old Folks Home Building Site - Photos by Betty M
Date: 20/09/2007 Time: 20:11:10
Earlier on I said that my "home" would be bought back with an amount kept to do it up. That is only one option. Some people use the open market. My main concern in all this is that my family will not be afflicted with the problems associated with selling a property. They are all very active and busy,

Incidentally, I visited some in London this weekend. Got a coach from Stroud to Heathrow and then the tube. Back on Monday. Last bus had gone. Taxi cost me the same as the bus!

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McCarthy Old Folks Home Building Site - Photos by Mystery Guest!
Date: 03/11/2007 Time: 12:04:24
Hello all i am a 30 something! and my partner a late 20's something and all going well we will be moving into Naisworth we love the livley atmosphere, so keep the faith i think Nailsworth can obtain a good mix of oldies & young uns!

Mind u was a bit worried about the home maybe we will be outnumbered must rally the troops! : )

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