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Topic: McCarthy Old Folks Home Building Site - Photos
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McCarthy Old Folks Home Building Site - Photos by Barking
Date: 12/08/2007 Time: 18:48:58
I took a few photos today of the works..

The rather smooth advert. The sick bucket is tucked behind the bottle bank.

The site as seen from the upper level car park. The building just behind the tower crane is the Tesco Express.

View from the 'W'.

One of the town elders having a look.

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McCarthy Old Folks Home Building Site - Photos by Dani
Date: 12/08/2007 Time: 19:06:18
Are these Wealthy retirement homes ?

That is all I see being built over here... As if everyone is flush with cash in their elder years. ?

Swiming pool, etc. wouldn't do us much good, unless they stocked it with fish...so we could catch our dinner.

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McCarthy Old Folks Home Building Site - Photos by Sinnikal
Date: 12/08/2007 Time: 19:15:55
Not 'Wealthy' as such Dani, but they won't be 'affordable' for a goodly number of people on retirement income

Those pictures have pulled me up short Barking, I'm starting to think that my sunsets are in danger

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McCarthy Old Folks Home Building Site - Photos by The Brewmeister
Date: 12/08/2007 Time: 22:20:25
I was somewhat surprised that the Crystal Village Fountain lot get a percentage of your house sale when you sell your property there. Seems that you can't lose in that game.

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McCarthy Old Folks Home Building Site - Photos by Dani
Date: 12/08/2007 Time: 22:48:26
Picture of bike. Think I could make it up and down your area on one of those but a real bike with petals and human power ?

Be pushing up daises with my greatgrandfather in Horsley churchyard.

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McCarthy Old Folks Home Building Site - Photos by Carey Hunt
Date: 12/08/2007 Time: 23:40:44
There was a topic on here a couple of months back about affordable housing, in which I posted a comment about the possibility of Nailsworth becoming a wealthy 'retirement village' like so many other English villages/small towns. I commented on the inevitable decline in local amenities which this presages.

Sadly, the presence of McCarthy & Stone in Nailsworth seems to suggest that my prediction is not as wild as it seemed at the time.

Nailsworth does not need retirement homes: if the town's future is to be assured, it needs housing that is affordable to the children of local residents. How will my 2 god-daughters, currently aged 10 & 13, ever be able to afford to live in the town they've grown up in?

When the time comes for local kids to leave the nest, they will be forced to move to Stroud or Bristol to buy property; the average age of the average Nailsworthian will rise to 65+ as only wealthy retirees will be able to afford property in the area, and the town will gradually lose its soul and decline. Long-established local families will disappear as the youngsters will be unable to afford to live in the town they were born in.

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McCarthy Old Folks Home Building Site - Photos by Cowardly Not Required
Date: 13/08/2007 Time: 00:51:47
CH, yes, you voice a real concern.

Lets think about Painswick. OK, lets not think too hard.

What can we do? Support the practical shops. Don't go to a DIY shed in Stroud, buy it or order it from Brutons. Buy all you can from the (practical) shops in town.

Remember that business rents in any location are based on 'evidence'. So, (as an example...) if the bijou shops just opened are paying 25% more rent than is really viable for the town, landlords of other properties can claim that this is 'evidence' to be used in the next rent review for their own properties.

Thus by stealth, shops that are only profitable at a lower level of rent are gradually squeezed out.

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McCarthy Old Folks Home Building Site - Photos by Wozie
Date: 13/08/2007 Time: 08:04:28
I'm afraid that too many wrinklies decending into our many retirement homes in Nailsworth do not breath a great deal of enthusiasm into it's midst.

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McCarthy Old Folks Home Building Site - Photos by Steed
Date: 13/08/2007 Time: 08:29:38
I asked this same daft question before on another similar thread.

What is there to stop any member of the public buying one of these "retirement" houses. Just because they have happy pictures of senior ctizens on the publicity doesn't mean they exclusively HAVE to veto every other sector of the house buying population. I could, at my spritely 30 something (cough cough) snap up one of those flats, and if anybody tried to stop me I would claim age discrimination. Interesting legal case.

So why not?

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McCarthy Old Folks Home Building Site - Photos by Sinnikal
Date: 13/08/2007 Time: 08:39:16
Steed, you can buy the lease at any age, it's just that the lease specifies that you must be a certain age to occupy the property

From the M & S website

http://www.mccarthyandstone.co.uk/faqs.html#4

Maybe leases are exempt from equality legislation.

Carey and CNR voice sensible concerns about the changing demographic of our town.

I'm not far from 'retirement age' myself, but the thought of sharing the town only with people of roughly my age and older fills me with dread

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McCarthy Old Folks Home Building Site - Photos by Steed
Date: 13/08/2007 Time: 08:45:43
Ok, Sinn, the lease specifies this minimum age. But my point is that this is legally dubious to include an age discriminatory clause in any legal contract.

Imagine if that self same lease excluded some people on racist or sexist grounds. They would be immediately challenged and quite rightly so. Well if we have had legislation for the past year or so clearly prohibiting age discrimination, it's a very dubious clause to slip into any a contract.

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McCarthy Old Folks Home Building Site - Photos by Wozie
Date: 13/08/2007 Time: 08:52:56
My parents in law live in a small retirement bungalow in an estate of about fifty. All they ever talk about is who is ill, in hospital and whose snuffed it, very exciting.

So, needless to say I am not in favour of clumping wrinklies together really, even though it seemed like a good idea at the time they moved in.

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McCarthy Old Folks Home Building Site - Photos by Sinnikal
Date: 13/08/2007 Time: 08:59:12
Steed, I've done a bit of cursory searching and it seems that 'Restricted Deed Communities' are indeed legal in the UK

So far I've been unable to find out the exact basis of what, on the face of it, seems a direct negation of the intent of anti-discrimination law.

As you say, I don't think it would be legal to deny occupancy to someone black, muslim or gay.

I must find out how this exemption arises

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McCarthy Old Folks Home Building Site - Photos by Sinnikal
Date: 13/08/2007 Time: 09:09:35
Steed, I can't say that I understand it all, but it seems to hinge on forming a 'non-profit body' or society, which is exempt from discrimination legislation and the lessee having to sign an agreement to abide by the rules of that body, which can contain a covenant to restrict membership not only by age, but by gender as well.

Doesn't seem right somehow

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McCarthy Old Folks Home Building Site - Photos by Steed
Date: 13/08/2007 Time: 09:41:14
Thanks Sinn!

So, following the same logic, I can form a "non-profit body" residential area called "New Afrikaaner" and say "Whites Only" on the contract? Or "No Women Admitted" perhaps.

You're right, it certainly doesn't seem right and I'd really like to see a case go to court on this.

Wozie, you're also right about the psychological effects of creating an environment composed of an artificially high proportion of seniors. it's been demonstrated that older people who are surrounded by a normal demographic mix live longer. Why? Because they're not thinki8ng about operations and doctors all the time but about much more positive things like how to help their grandchildren with their education and leisure.

Positive mind, positive body. We're only as old as we feel!

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